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Post by elitenoble on Nov 26, 2013 15:06:55 GMT -5
BYOND key: Elitenoble Character name: Brendan Stafford (Assistant) Admin's name: Luibei25 Admin's character: Alice Margatroid (Captain) Date of incident: 26/11/2013 (around 20:00-21:00 GMT +1) Description:
I join the round as an assistant and run around when I notice the janitor. I decide to steal his cart and get brigged afterwards. I serve my time and brag about how I "escaped the jail and how the captain is weakling". A couple minutes later the clown joins the game, the captain arrests him and I manage to break him out. Then the captain arrests us and permabrigs us.I manage to use the comms and get three guys to help us (the QM, the mime and engineer). They arrive at the permabrig and manage to defeat the captain and release us. We leave the captain in the permabrig but the clown doesn't get on time to the shuttle. The captain somehow manages to outplay the clown even though she is cuffed so he yells for help. I come back and notice the dead clown next to the captain then the captain starts to fire lasers on me but I manage stun her and cuff her, but somehow her cuffs disappear. I cuff her again but then she pushes me over? I couldn't pull or grab her either. So I decide to laser her and then the admin puts me into crit. I asked him why, he told me I was griefing, yet the only thing I did was free the clown and tried to capture the captain who used an unfair advantage over me. I then tell him that the clown just arrived on the station and he proceeds to ban me. TL;DR Help clown, get perma'd with clown, bros help me escape and catch the evil cap'n. Evilman uses unfair advantage and bans me. Other witnesses: Clown Sir Honkington,(Mime Nercival Dimmons ,Engineer Lane Rockwell and QM James 'Big Jim' Rennie) Not sure about the three last ones. Round log available on request?: Yes pastebin format
log 2013-11-26 (8 56 pm).htm (73.35 KB)
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Post by luibei25 on Nov 26, 2013 16:04:00 GMT -5
I happened to be watching over the captain, that round, when I noticed some of this stuff started happening. The captain actually arrested an assistant, for stealing the janitor's cart. After the assistant's time was up, he ran off, of course. The captain came across the mime, and clown, breaking into...everywhere they could, I think, and didn't do anything. But what started the arresting was when he caught them in the HoP's office. The captain caught the clown, and the mime ran off. That assistatnt, that was just freed earlier, came back, and bashed the security doors, releasing the clown from the cell he was put in. Those two were caught, again, and put in perma. During the chase, to catch them again, the mime started a group up to coup the station, because he thought the captain wasn't fit, or something. So a QM, and an engineer, sided with them, in an attempt to capture the captain, and detain him. When you finally managed to do that, you stripped him, of course, and stuffed him in a permacell. They only used cablewires as handcuffs, so the captain broke out of them. Then he got out of that cell, by pressing a simple button to unlock the door, and escaped through the area your group left open when you emagged the doors. The captain then recaptured the clown, when he disarmed the clown and got a laser gun. After detaining the clown, the captain finally had a bit of gear, and the guns the clown had on him. That assistant, came back, to check on the clown I'm guessing, and found the captain there, with the clown on the ground, beaten.
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Post by luibei25 on Nov 26, 2013 16:04:44 GMT -5
I'm just going to paste that here, so I don't have to type out about your grief twice.
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Post by elitenoble on Nov 26, 2013 16:26:35 GMT -5
First off all you don't permabrig people for simply breaking into places , secondly this posts is different from the one you posted in wonkzonk's appeal (kind of weird no?). Then there is no way the captain/you could have managed to unhandcuff yourself, run over a decompressed area without any shoes and down the clown under a minute. And??? Also the clown wasn't beaten when I came in, he was dead. Check the logs. |
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Post by luibei25 on Nov 26, 2013 16:41:03 GMT -5
It's different from the post because that is not your area. That post was dealing with him. You weren't in the round log enough, nor were you playing as that engineer. The clown beaten, defeated, dead, etc. Maybe my words are too confusing for you? Wirecuffs take thirty seconds to break out of, and you can run through a decompressed area without shoes, fairly easily. As there as no glass blocking the route. You can easily down someone when you nab their laser, and use it against them.
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Post by luibei25 on Nov 26, 2013 16:44:26 GMT -5
Please, do not derail this off of you. This is not the clown's post, or the engineer's. This is yours, the assistant. We're here to talk about you, and your problem with me banning you for grief.
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Post by elitenoble on Nov 26, 2013 16:57:06 GMT -5
I was in the round before the clown and are you saying it's justified to permabrig someone for breaking into places? Then permabrigging someone that frees that person? And finnaly killing the trespasser? I mean if you can easily down them while you're cuffed,without shoes and running through an area exposed to space under a minute. Why wouldn't you just cuff them instead of killing them?
Oh and also my "griefing" started when I couldn't cuff/pull/drag the captain.
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Post by luibei25 on Nov 26, 2013 17:01:57 GMT -5
Actually, the clown was only in that cell for a minute before you decided it'd be funny to break him out. You busting him out set the deal. Since you need to read it again, I will paste what happened again. Wirecuffs take thirty seconds to break out of, and you can run through a decompressed area without shoes, fairly easily. As there as no glass blocking the route. You can easily down someone when you nab their laser, and use it against them. Read more: facepunchss13.proboards.com/thread/1794/elitenobles-complaint-lubei25?page=1&scrollTo=7026#ixzz2ln8p7aFOI have no idea what was happening with not being to drag, grab, or pull the captain. I was questioning that myself. |
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Post by elitenoble on Nov 26, 2013 17:16:06 GMT -5
If it's that easy for you, why did you kill instead of cuffing him?
You still haven't explained why the cuffs didn't work(first time I cuffed her the cuffs magically disappeared, the second time I cuffed, she still had cuffs on her and yet she could use her hands)/why it's justified to permabrig people for non-capital crimes. Side detail which I have no proof of: you walked into a shard and got a wound a couple minutes later it disappeared (again no proof of this)
Also wouldn't it be more logical to PM me before/after I "griefed"?
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Post by luibei25 on Nov 26, 2013 18:22:25 GMT -5
So, helping a convicted criminal is a "non-capital crime"? Have you done this before, in real life, with the police only laughing, and slapping your wrists? This confuses me. I was going to let this all slide, until your group took it too far. So I was getting rid of the problem by just removing you all from the current round. Though, I can see not banning you only causes problems and you all complain about not being banned. Considering I told you I was willing to let all of it slide. Since I was one of the only people being targeted by your group griefing. If you think banning a player for breaking the rules, after being given a chance, is wrong, then by all means, I am a terrible admin. I feel as though my attempted removal was surely interrupted by group grief. After giving you that chance, you continued to drag out your complaining. So I banned you for the reason that I had chosen to decide against earlier in the round.
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Post by elitenoble on Nov 27, 2013 6:48:09 GMT -5
Of course I do break out convicted criminals out jail in my past-time, I mean what else is there to do in life, right?
A couple years ago I broke out someone who broke into a toy-shop, I only had to serve a couple months (he a little bit longer). The officer of course laughed when they caught me but they didn't let me nor the trespasser rot in jail.
Let's presume that everyone would believe in god and that there would be one. So, helping a dictator who imprisons a part of his population for minor crimes. Would it be ethically justified to help the dictator that gets overthrown by his nation, for obvious reasons, as the god? Do you think the nation will laugh and still praise the god?
There was no such thing as "my group" or a "group" at all until you decided it's okay to permabrig us for irrelevant crimes.
No, I am not complaining about my ban I am complaining about your behavior and abuse, this is why I posted it here and not in the ban section.
Weren't you only watching over the captain? Why spread all these lies? Obviously you would get targeted, you permabrigged people for stupid reasons, what did you think? When I came into permabrig the captain/you started firing lasers on me and killed the clown already. I tried to stun and cuff you but I couldn't for some magical reason, so I griefed after those magical events started to happen by coincidence of course.
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Post by lordmummie on Nov 28, 2013 18:22:29 GMT -5
Didn't read this all but I woudn't rely on elitenoble, he griefs and is un-robust as hell. I was there that day. Only noticed the attempted mutiny. Which I, robust one, stopped on my own.
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Post by Name Changing Autist on Nov 28, 2013 19:25:54 GMT -5
Didn't read this all but I woudn't rely on elitenoble, he griefs and is un-robust as hell. I was there that day. Only noticed the attempted mutiny. Which I, robust one, stopped on my own. I'd suggest you then read the log and his complaint before commenting. On a seperate note so that Elitenoble doesn't think the admins are ignoring this, we're aware of this and deciding how to deal with it. |
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Post by malanth on Nov 29, 2013 16:06:07 GMT -5
You've been unbanned.
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. sorry for the bad news, but i will always remember our time raping some whores and animals in ss13. nig