Quality of Life Improvements

[absynth]

First off, I have no idea the kind of direction (if any) the admins even want to take the FP server. But with that in mind I have a few suggestions. Bear in mind these are the opinions of someone who's played SS13 since it existed and was involved with writing some of the code that FP itself is using, so it's not like these are totally uninformed opinions. So anyway

* Make power go out in the order of Lights, Equipment, Environment, not equipment first. Why does valuable and life-saving equipment get turned off before the LIGHTS do? Lights almost always take up thousands more watts than equipment in a room (notable exception: Robotics), and having the lights go out first would give people an early warning sign that a power failure is imminent.

* Remove librarian and make them officially Nanotrasen Journalists. Librarians suck. People don't read books NOW, why the hell would they read them in the future? Why would they even exist? It's one of the few jobs that is very jarring with the whole 'FUTURE SPACE' theme.

* Remove Shaft Miners and give all departments that use metals a small stock of it. Allow the QMs to order cheap metal crates. Keep the asteroid, but make the mining department a public place, and change the mining hardsuits to crappy, cheap EVA spacesuits.

* Make eguns, tasers, and advanced eguns hackable. Screwdriver, wirecutters, give them 4 wires, all randomized for each gun. 1 wire unlocks it, 1 wire drains the power in it, 1 wire makes it shoot you in the face and 1 wire makes it explode. Can't be multitooled, you just gotta roll the dice.

* More item slots for monkeys, specifically overbody and head. Monkeys in lab coats! Monkeys with space helmets!

* Is it really necessary for text to show 'Assistant <name> (Assistant)' every time someone talks? Just use whatever's on their ID.

* Grenade launcher still shows the variable in examine: Contains list / 3 grenades. Should be 0/3.

* Temperature gun still does nothing.

* Add a graphic GUI display when inside an exosuit showing how much battery power is left. Steal the one from borgs.

* Give MALF AI's a new malfbility option: Walker Mode. This is a toggle that allows an AI core to grow spindly robotic spider legs from their core and lets them both walk around and shoot small lasers on each click. When in Walker Mode, the AI drains power from the area's APC; if there's an area with no power, it starts draining AI health. AIs in Walker Mode cannot use any malf ability, cannot shunt, and cannot hack APCs.

* Burst canisters don't spill their contents into a room, it all seems to just magically vanish.

* 12500u of diamond (6.25 sheets) just to let someone play a sec borg? Really? An entire Gygax is 3-4.

* Cold Resist mutation does less than nothing. Make it into an overall temperature-reduction mutation so that you are more resistant to both extreme cold and extreme heat -- exactly like wearing a permanent hardsuit.

Now some suggestions with the new station layout:

* The departments are too isolated, either by location or size. Departments that are WAY too big: Chapel, Library, Bar. Departments that are WAY too isolated (compared to before): Robotics, Disposals, Kitchen. The choice to isolate areas that depend entirely on interaction with the general public are now bafflingly hard to get to by anyone. Almost no departments have windows with which to pass items or talk to people. Kitchen can't even SEE Botany, let alone talk to them, and having to go thru maint with no cameras, lights, or security in order to give food means nobody ever does it.

* RD is way, way, WAY too powerful a job now, with full chemistry access. RD is easily the most versatile and destructive job (above Captain, as the Captain has many responsibilities while the RD can putter away and not give a shit about anything ever), and giving them access to: unlimited acid, extremely powerful large grenades, and rapid syringe guns with any chemical they want.. uhh. Notice how Medbay is a deserted wasteland now? 75% of rounds I play there isn't even a CMO, let alone any actual doctors doing doctoring. They have no extra medicines except what they can beg or steal from Chemistry, which is now broken into every single round because of its more isolated position.

* AI loses a LOT of camera access, even in major hallways. Someone in maint next to Medbay was begging me to open the door to the hall and I couldn't even see that one was there!

* No luchador masks

* Every department has excessive lighting, which is an ENORMOUS drain on the room's power requirement. I see rooms with -4- large lights in like a tiny 6x6 room (vacant office comes to mind). One light can light up a very large area, guys.

* Every maint hallway is bland, uninteresting, and uniform. You should be able to recognize where you are based on your surroundings, but 90% of the maint tunnels look exactly the same and even many of the item spawns are duplicates.

* Bar north-facing doors are using the Prosecution chair from the courtroom.

* Prison shuttle triangular corner-pieces use simple black backgrounds instead of the transparent-opaque ones. See: White triangular shuttle corners. You place them on a turf and the turf shows up underneath it.

* No luchador masks

* Way too many critical station departments are on the outer edge of the station, which means they get absolutely wrecked by meteors every single round. See: bridge, genetics, etc. At least add a maintenance buffer zone or extra-thick glass/walls so the meteors hit that first. Not a round goes by where every genetics monkey doesn't asphyxiate.


There's more but that's all I'm writing for now.

[Danuis Studnick]

Son if you read the lore we're here to MINE plasma

If anything mining needs to be a bigger department returned to its old glory

And whats wrong with luchador masks you some kind of fundie mate

[jarek56]

Oct 11, 2013 22:27:46 GMT -5 Danuis Studnick said:

Son if you read the lore we're here to MINE plasma

If anything mining needs to be a bigger department returned to its old glory

And whats wrong with luchador masks you some kind of fundie mate

This. You speak the good word, friend.

[Name Changing Autist]

* Make power go out in the order of Lights, Equipment, Environment, not equipment first. Why does valuable and life-saving equipment get turned off before the LIGHTS do? Lights almost always take up thousands more watts than equipment in a room (notable exception: Robotics), and having the lights go out first would give people an early warning sign that a power failure is imminent.

* Make eguns, tasers, and advanced eguns hackable. Screwdriver, wirecutters, give them 4 wires, all randomized for each gun. 1 wire unlocks it, 1 wire drains the power in it, 1 wire makes it shoot you in the face and 1 wire makes it explode. Can't be multitooled, you just gotta roll the dice.

* Cold Resist mutation does less than nothing. Make it into an overall temperature-reduction mutation so that you are more resistant to both extreme cold and extreme heat -- exactly like wearing a permanent hardsuit.

I like these suggestions.

Superpowers right now need to be reworked since they're no longer completely positive but instead worked in with good and bad and some are completely useless.

The suggestion for the actual power makes sense and would be better.

Random Hacking with Guns would be nice, replace maybe the one where it shoots you in the face with it exploding and the one where it explodes with disabling the gun's electronic's permanently.

[HeathclifFlowen]

I'm not gonna go over every one of those suggestions right now (mostly because I have nothing to do with coding/mapping) but I'll touch on one:


* Make power go out in the order of Lights, Equipment, Environment, not equipment first. Why does valuable and life-saving equipment get turned off before the LIGHTS do? Lights almost always take up thousands more watts than equipment in a room (notable exception: Robotics), and having the lights go out first would give people an early warning sign that a power failure is imminent.

This is because the station is SUPPOSED to be a death trap. This design philosophy has dissipated over the years but a few things still remain. Equipment goes out first because its the most important and it traps you inside the room. Fire alarms are actually made with the same objective in mind. Fire doors don't stop a *good* fire, they leak if it's hot enough. Fire doors actually exist to trap you inside the fire.

[Danuis Studnick]

Oct 12, 2013 7:50:33 GMT -5 HeathclifFlowen said:

I'm not gonna go over every one of those suggestions right now (mostly because I have nothing to do with coding/mapping) but I'll touch on one:


* Make power go out in the order of Lights, Equipment, Environment, not equipment first. Why does valuable and life-saving equipment get turned off before the LIGHTS do? Lights almost always take up thousands more watts than equipment in a room (notable exception: Robotics), and having the lights go out first would give people an early warning sign that a power failure is imminent.

This is because the station is SUPPOSED to be a death trap. This design philosophy has dissipated over the years but a few things still remain. Equipment goes out first because its the most important and it traps you inside the room. Fire alarms are actually made with the same objective in mind. Fire doors don't stop a *good* fire, they leak if it's hot enough. Fire doors actually exist to trap you inside the fire.

So we must make it MORE of a death trap.

Making a big mining department with tools and no OSHA compliance fits that!

[Marde]

* More item slots for monkeys, specifically overbody and head. Monkeys in lab coats! Monkeys with space helmets!

* Grenade launcher still shows the variable in examine: Contains list / 3 grenades. Should be 0/3.

* The departments are too isolated, either by location or size. Departments that are WAY too big: Chapel, Library, Bar. Departments that are WAY too isolated (compared to before): Robotics, Disposals, Kitchen. The choice to isolate areas that depend entirely on interaction with the general public are now bafflingly hard to get to by anyone. Almost no departments have windows with which to pass items or talk to people. Kitchen can't even SEE Botany, let alone talk to them, and having to go thru maint with no cameras, lights, or security in order to give food means nobody ever does it.

* No luchador masks

* Every department has excessive lighting, which is an ENORMOUS drain on the room's power requirement. I see rooms with -4- large lights in like a tiny 6x6 room (vacant office comes to mind). One light can light up a very large area, guys.

* Every maint hallway is bland, uninteresting, and uniform. You should be able to recognize where you are based on your surroundings, but 90% of the maint tunnels look exactly the same and even many of the item spawns are duplicates.

* Bar north-facing doors are using the Prosecution chair from the courtroom.

* Prison shuttle triangular corner-pieces use simple black backgrounds instead of the transparent-opaque ones. See: White triangular shuttle corners. You place them on a turf and the turf shows up underneath it.

* No luchador masks

* Way too many critical station departments are on the outer edge of the station, which means they get absolutely wrecked by meteors every single round. See: bridge, genetics, etc. At least add a maintenance buffer zone or extra-thick glass/walls so the meteors hit that first. Not a round goes by where every genetics monkey doesn't asphyxiate.

Way too many sprites to add to the game especially when most won't even use them (See Ian for an example)

Fixed

You just need to adjust, that is how I see it. 

El fixedo

I'll see what I can do.

Will take a look.

The prosecution is no long ready in the bar.

Prison shuttle is already like that

See previous luchador mask answer

To be fair, each monkey was bound to be radiated to death anyway.

[warnipple]

Please add a book in the library that tells you what all wizard spells and items do.

[spooce]

Please allow the detective to store items in his coat. Thank you.

[Nokington]

Oct 28, 2013 12:49:13 GMT -5 spooce said:

Please allow the detective to store items in his coat. Thank you.

Already can, with suit storage.

[Name Changing Autist]

Oct 28, 2013 16:23:06 GMT -5 Nokington said:

Oct 28, 2013 12:49:13 GMT -5 spooce said:

Please allow the detective to store items in his coat. Thank you.

Already can, with suit storage.

I think he means in the actual coat, /tg/ code has the ability to store small items in a Hazard Vest and possibly other vests/coats which I just haven't noticed.

So he's probably asking for that.

[spooce]

That is exactly what I'm asking for. When playing as a Detective, there's a lot of stuff to carry around, so that extra space is really helpful. I usually store a scanner and ammunition there to free up space.

[absynth]

Most containers can only hold very specific items, I would say a better idea in general is to allow ANY oversuit to be able to hold a) small items like a pocket, and b) suit-specific larger items, like fire extinguishers on a firesuit.

[iamthelaw]

The coders on facepunch have done a lot of cool stuff, so figured I could add some input on ideas if they get bored in the future and want to add/change things.

Depending on how much of a pain it would be, switching the chapel and medical's position and making so the chemistry window is at the entrance to medical, but still in science and under the rd's command, would give chemists more to do/be visited. Conversely you could change the exam room at the entrance of medical to a small chem lab that chemists have access to.

Implants for shooting guns has somehow changed the view of loyalty implants from being forced into a sort of centcom mindslave to just them being a gun license. That being said I do like the functionality; just thought it could be mentioned that making hackable idea might reverse the thought and make so the implants primary intention isn't as ignored. But seriously, a non-antag assistant getting breaking into the armory and getting armor isnt that big a deal ic wise, but stealing a high level id and implanting themselves then not listening to the command makes no sense. To my understanding that should be ic evidence for considering them an antag by being able to resist the implant.

More Beneficial viruses so virology isnt just a wasted space/annoyance/deathlab would be awesome.

Either merging access for the bar/hydroponics/chef and calling them galley workers or something of the such. Or turn the maintenance between them into some sort of stockpile room that they all have access to with glass doors so you can yell at the botanists who arent doing shit.

Make so multiple times of eating junk food from the junk food vendors to satiate hunger has a chance to give you the fat gene. This would possibly make so the kitchen is visited other then to gib a body.

For a larger project; whilst im not sure I like the idea of telescience, our station is equipped with a gateway, let it do something. Multiple ideas for this:
1)One of the z levels will have a book of random addresses, which would first have to be found by a space explorer with the addresses/destinations changing each round.

2)Some type of menial task whereas which you would use to figure out gate addresses

3)A randomizer funtion on gateway that just gives you a random working address everytime its used but has a cooldown or something.

Destinations could include some of the already more or less vanity gateway destinations seen from admins. But, also contain some helpfull ones such as; A densely mineral rich asteroid. A technology, supply, and/or weapon cache. Honk Planet rich in bananium, banana trees, and a river of space lube. And even some terrible ones: A huge influx of growing space vines coming out. A destination that causes a very difficult time for the people who go through it to stay alive. A invasion of mobs of some sort. Lava. ALIUMs! We can neverendingly go on with bad shit happening in ss13, the bad things could either be localized to the gameway or be given the same station destructive abilities the station deserves.