Post by cress67 on Nov 27, 2013 23:24:36 GMT -5
BYOND key: Cress67
Admin's key: Nbielinski
Ban Type: Job ban
Ban Reason: The reason is: Requested his laws be purged in a default lawset. Stating that he wanted the ability to cause human harm. While being bound not to.
Your Appeal: Well, this is less an appeal to remove the ban, and more an appeal to get the reason changed. I realize I fucked up by asking for a purge, because one of the unstated laws of Asimov is that an AI cannot edit itself to allow harm to possibly occur, but wanting harm never entered my thought process. Spoken or non. I just don't want any admins looking at my file and going "Hey, this guy is a shit AI".
Now, I sort of fucked up and didn't log the text (I copy-pasted), but since it is all in Admin chat, I am pretty sure it can be checked.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: Wait. Did you really just request your laws be changed?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
The AI Upload Chamber has been bolted.
PM to-Admins: I believe I can help more humans by being able to screen bad requests.
PM to-Admins: You can admin my laws back to asimov if ya want.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: Just make sure not to fuck up this round.
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PM to-Admins: I never try to hurt anyone as an AI, if I can help it.
You have been jobbanned by nbielinski from: AI.
The reason is: Requested his laws be purged in a default lawset. Stating that he wanted the ability to cause human harm. While being bound not to.
Jobban can be lifted only upon request.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: This can be removed at a later date. If an admin feels you have done well as an AI.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: I NEVER SAID THAT
PM to-Admins: I said I wanted to not have to obey stupid things! I never even touch humans, even on rounds where I was legitimately purged!
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: Dont use all caps becuase this is final. You broke one of the fundamental laws of robotics and as such you should play instead as a borg for the foreseable future becuase you need to work on obeying laws.
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PM to-Admins: Alright.
PM to-Admins: I just wasn't thinking of how this was allowing human harm. I was thinking that it would allow me to help people, as I know I never harm people, but then the AI wouldn't know that and it kinda logic loops.
Again, I don't necessarily need to have the ban itself removed; I would just greatly enjoy if the reason was changed. It is sort of slanderous, since I never said the words stated in the reason (even if that was the end result).
Admin's key: Nbielinski
Ban Type: Job ban
Ban Reason: The reason is: Requested his laws be purged in a default lawset. Stating that he wanted the ability to cause human harm. While being bound not to.
Your Appeal: Well, this is less an appeal to remove the ban, and more an appeal to get the reason changed. I realize I fucked up by asking for a purge, because one of the unstated laws of Asimov is that an AI cannot edit itself to allow harm to possibly occur, but wanting harm never entered my thought process. Spoken or non. I just don't want any admins looking at my file and going "Hey, this guy is a shit AI".
Now, I sort of fucked up and didn't log the text (I copy-pasted), but since it is all in Admin chat, I am pretty sure it can be checked.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: Wait. Did you really just request your laws be changed?
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
The AI Upload Chamber has been bolted.
PM to-Admins: I believe I can help more humans by being able to screen bad requests.
PM to-Admins: You can admin my laws back to asimov if ya want.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: Just make sure not to fuck up this round.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: I never try to hurt anyone as an AI, if I can help it.
You have been jobbanned by nbielinski from: AI.
The reason is: Requested his laws be purged in a default lawset. Stating that he wanted the ability to cause human harm. While being bound not to.
Jobban can be lifted only upon request.
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: This can be removed at a later date. If an admin feels you have done well as an AI.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: I NEVER SAID THAT
PM to-Admins: I said I wanted to not have to obey stupid things! I never even touch humans, even on rounds where I was legitimately purged!
-- Administrator private message --
Admin PM from-Nbielinski: Dont use all caps becuase this is final. You broke one of the fundamental laws of robotics and as such you should play instead as a borg for the foreseable future becuase you need to work on obeying laws.
Click on the administrator's name to reply.
PM to-Admins: Alright.
PM to-Admins: I just wasn't thinking of how this was allowing human harm. I was thinking that it would allow me to help people, as I know I never harm people, but then the AI wouldn't know that and it kinda logic loops.
Again, I don't necessarily need to have the ban itself removed; I would just greatly enjoy if the reason was changed. It is sort of slanderous, since I never said the words stated in the reason (even if that was the end result).
. sorry for the bad news, but i will always remember our time raping some whores and animals in ss13. nig