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Post by Nibbles on Mar 2, 2014 17:42:03 GMT -5
BYOND key: Nbielinski Character name: Oliver Stefan BYOND key of offender: N/A Character name of offender: Captain Alexus Isaman Date of incident: 3/2/14, 4:29-5:29 PM EST Description: Alright so doing my normal assistant duties as a non-traitor I was roaming the halls for something to do when I notice the Captain running around with a sec locker she described later as being, "Full of sec equipment" which was a mistake entirely. Which in all fairness was understandable when I decided it would be a laugh to push it a bit more. Obviously not running off with it, but then I thought it would be even FUNNIER if I did run off with it, as the Captain chased me with a backpack full of empty tasers and energy guns because she had failed to hit me at all. Which of course lead me to drop the locker and continue off. A little while later after throwing a braindead CMO into his office and letting myself out with his ID, the Captain manages to randomly stun me and proceeds to not only pepper spray me several times in the face, but also stripped me of all my clothing inside sec, and tase me several more times as she fumbled with the equipment drawers looking for cuffs to which she threw me in a chair with then pepper sprayed me again and again without explaining why I was arrested. THEN! After being sprayed in the eyes a few more times, the Captain dragged me to RnD where I whispered, as per rules, OOC information that was based upon the fact that she had randomly arrested me and I was writing up a ban. And if I was borged I would ask for a permanent ban against her due to that being over the top for anything but murder. To which she dragged me back to sec and acted like she was Judge Dread stating: "Attempted Grand Theft, Unauthorized Weaponry, and heavily suspected of sabotage" most of which was just her way of ass-pulling that I might have been making trouble. None the less, that's the long and short of it. A captain with a history of failing to understand space law running around playing sec officer as someone outclasses them. None the less I'd like to remind the admin team that the Captain recently had an issue where she took part in locking a long time member of SS13 in a lonley room filling with N20 by the request of another head who was then banned. So Im requesting Captain Alexus Isaman get banned from, if not all head positions, Captain. Thank you. And have a damn fine day. Other witnesses: N/A, the round was not populated largely and much of the crew was elsewhere. Round log available on request?: Yes, the log is in the attachments. Sorry if it seems crude, the name of said attachment, its just how I remember things.
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Post by sgtlion on Mar 2, 2014 18:06:59 GMT -5
Well, ain't nothin' like some speedy serve-up of second story side. As the dear Nibbles did say, I was moving a locker of sec equipment to science to do so science research, when I saw and, after a lil' help from Beepsky, arrested Assistant Oliver Stefan, who, as far as I had heard, had just knocked out an engineer and stripped them of stuff (An allegation I later found out to be false). I searched the dear Assistant, found nothing, and said he could go on his way. After being uncuffed, he went to thoroughly berating my arresting ability and attempted to swiftly pull the sec locker I was earlier moving, but had kept an eye on throughout. The theft was clearly not in a joking attitude, as the only reason he failed was because good ol' Mervin the lizard pushed it out his hands, at which point he ran off, so I decided to secure the locker, and arrest the probable traitor later, so I went to science. After later noticing that the good Assistant was in possession of Stun Gloves, and noticed she had been messaging a confirmed traitor, I decided to arrest and search him once more. I was quite rough with the use of pepper spray and stun baton as I had no cuffs, and no flashes at the time - it had been a busy day. I must admit though, I didn't know pepper spray apparently blinds people after a while, so I do apologise to you, Nibbles, on that front. I found nothing, but (after a quick trip to RnD in considering to make him a borg, and deciding against it, as I couldn't prove anythin' about his traitorship) decided to brig him for 6 minutes based on the whole stun gloves, having a Head's PDA, and stealing important sec stuff things. As I went about brigging, he kept whispering about how he was filling out a ban request, about how I was so hated by ex-admins and had two horrific accounts of poor headmanship, which I guess was nice enough to do, as I guess I can write this now. After setting the timer, I had a rather pressing matter to deal with in real life, so I promptly made sure the HoP was okay and could run the station, and set off into space. As I drifted through the empty void, I thought "Ah shit, I forgot to put that assistant's stuff in the prison locker", also came to notice I forgot my oxygen tank, and promptly died. I can only hope the HoP managed to do it for him. I do say that, given the circumstances, I think it was fair to be of heavy suspect that the Assistant was a traitor, but having no hard proof, I did no permabrigging, no borging, nor any actual bodily harm. My earlier problems were dealt with by Necro, I admitted I made a couple mistakes, but don't think it was anything of major breach, as I don't remember Necro telling me off - Maybe he shoulda, I'unno. Not with intent to brag, but my security has been praised as unexpectedly fair-handed, so it's sad I've come to have two problems in such a short time. If there are things I go about poorly, beyond my mistakes, I always do my best to rectify them - This time for example, I used the brig for a temporary holding cell, instead of a room full of N20, an improvement on my sec technique suggested by Necro at my last incident. I'll say again, Nibbles, I do apologise for the blinding effect and for accidentally not giving you your legal stuff back. But those were two minor incidents of but pure accident. Also added is my logs, just 'cause more reading is more.. pleasing? I can't think of a very happy rhyme for this. |
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Post by Nibbles on Mar 2, 2014 18:56:35 GMT -5
As the dear Nibbles did say, I was moving a locker of sec equipment to science to do so science research, when I saw and, after a lil' help from Beepsky, arrested Assistant Oliver Stefan, who, as far as I had heard, had just knocked out an engineer and stripped them of stuff (An allegation I later found out to be false). "Help from beepsky" So shooting out an entire energy gun then proceeding to switch to a taser before finally LANDING ONE SHOT....after taking all the equipment and having the locker pushed. Because had you seen me the first time you would have turned and chased me which did not happen. And allow me to note that in the log after I explained what happened I went back and you can see I threw the mans ID back to him. Which is odd considering the man never said, "He stripped me of all my stuff." I searched the dear Assistant, found nothing, and said he could go on his way. After being uncuffed, he went to thoroughly berating my arresting ability and attempted to swiftly pull the sec locker I was earlier moving, but had kept an eye on throughout. The theft was clearly not in a joking attitude, as the only reason he failed was because good ol' Mervin the lizard pushed it out his hands, at which point he ran off, so I decided to secure the locker, and arrest the probable traitor later, so I went to science. Considering that in the past you arrested and threw a man into a room filling with N20 for tasing your "friend" the RD, its already fairly clear that you have an issue judging space law in its acceptable stances. So I don't think the people judging this posting OR ANYONE should consider your definition of a "joking" attitude. After later noticing that the good Assistant was in possession of Stun Gloves, and noticed he had been messaging a confirmed traitor, I decided to arrest and search him once more. I was quite rough with the use of pepper spray and stun baton as I had no cuffs, and no flashes at the time - it had been a busy day. I must admit though, I didn't know pepper spray apparently blinds people after a while, so I do apologise to you, Nibbles, on that front. So let me just state this as knowing what the fuck Im talking about. If you ever think that the station needs a sec officer or a security force of any type of enforce law. And you take up that job. MAKE SURE YOU ARE FUCKING READY TO ARREST SOMEONE. And not just prepared to run around with a bag full of stun batons, pepper spray, and tasers to abuse them. I found nothing, but (after a quick trip to RnD in considering to make him a borg, and deciding against it, as I couldn't prove anythin' about his traitorship) decided to brig him for 6 minutes based on the whole stun gloves, having a Head's PDA, and stealing important sec stuff things. As I recall it was me whispering, in a concise effort to make you stop. That you would be randomly killing someone, that made you stop as you appeared to have no inclination of stopping prior to me saying that randomly borging someone without proof of them being a traitor is a ban-able offense. As I went about brigging, he kept whispering about how he was filling out a ban request, about how I was so hated by ex-admins and had two horrific accounts of poor headmanship, which I guess was nice enough to do, as I guess I can write this now. Oh dear god please stop acting like I was whispering Satanic chants to you, stating to someone that they are doing wrong. AND THEY HAVE DONE WRONG. AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO DO WRONG. Isn't something to belittle. Especially against someone who spent the last year of his time on SS13 dealing with this type of shit. So I'm really very sorry I couldn't PM you and ask why you thought it necessary to drag me around the station trying to find an adequate reason to borg me. After setting the timer, I had a rather pressing matter to deal with in real life, so I promptly made sure the HoP was okay and could run the station, and set off into space. As I drifted through the empty void, I thought "Ah shit, I forgot to put that assistant's stuff in the prison locker", also came to notice I forgot my oxygen tank, and promptly died. I can only hope the HoP managed to do it for him. Let me remind you, that you set the timer, called me an asshole, then ran off to jump into space and promptly left. Giving me just enough time to write up the ban request, walk out of my cell, then jump off into space because the HoP suicided right after that asking: "Where did Alex go?" I do say that, given the circumstances, I think it was fair to be of heavy suspect that the Assistant was a traitor, but having no hard proof, I did no permabrigging, no borging, nor any actual bodily harm. "Heavy suspect that the assistant was a traitor" So not to play the OOC in IC card, but as I recall its been explained that in cannon the number of syndicate agents decreases with the crew on staff when the shift begins. And as for "No permabrigging, no borging, nor any actual bodily harm" not only did you continually stun me, and drag me around the station with no clothing on, before making moves to both the RnD labs to borg me and the perma brig station to throw me in there for "Suspectedly" being a traitor. So Im sorry if I seem brash but one small nick on a diamond ring isn't bad but when the nicks and dings start becoming more and more numerous.... My earlier problems were dealt with by Necro, I admitted I made a couple mistakes, but don't think it was anything of major breach, as I don't remember Necro telling me off - Maybe he shoulda, I'unno. Not with intent to brag, but my security has been praised as unexpectedly fair-handed, so it's sad I've come to have two problems in such a short time. I see almost no reason why they should be praised. Considering the fact that you are someone I've not seen on SS13 before. Thought I might be wrong obviously my memory is not the best. And somehow, within a weeks period you've managed to mishandle two prisoners into them committing suicide due to your negligence. Saying, "Oh I'm sorry but..." doesn't really fix the fact that without ever actually assaulting anyone you managed to see me as close to a threat to a syndicate agent. Which really speaks to me personally if you fail to designate a petty hacker/thief from a hardened syndicate agent. |
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Post by Commissar Holt on Mar 2, 2014 19:00:39 GMT -5
To be honest, this is starting to be a recurring problem, and I think taking a break from captain and security roles is a good idea. So, I'm gonna job ban you from those roles for awhile. Consider it an opportunity to learn how to do things in the game besides locking people in rooms full of toxic gasses. This incident in and of itself isn't that terrible, but this slippery slope you're going down is going to end badly. Might I suggest learning another job?
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Post by Name Changing Autist on Mar 3, 2014 2:32:22 GMT -5
Holt's decision is a good one, use the jobban to take a break and relax from the positions since you weren't doing Security particularly well this round from what I could see from the logs and other tools, not to mention that slippery slopes when playing Security is pretty common and bad when they do happen.
As for all the references on the previous incident, I discussed what had happened with all parties involved, the CMO who was complained, admitted his mistakes, as did the other parties. It was resolved pretty well I must say.
(Also shoving the man into a room filled with N2O didn't last very little and was indeed a temporary solution, albeit a pretty shit one.)
It'd probably be good to note that you were being pretty toxic and hostile throughout the round Nbiel in your treatment of the Captain, accusing the Captain of being retarded, having extra chromosomes, and even labeling your log as "Captain Being A Cunt" etc. Considering that you were an admin for so long, you'd be pretty aware at how well constant hostility and insults are taken by most Security Officers.
Alexus wasn't too competent and Oliver was excessively hostile and a bit of a dick, I may of missed something but that's how it comes off to me.
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Post by sgtlion on Mar 3, 2014 14:45:52 GMT -5
'Aight, my thanks to Holt for a fair-handed approach, and my thanks to Necro for what, to my naturally biased persons, seems like a fairer expand on that approach, and for justifying Holt's decision in more depth. Nibbles however is bein' a lil' meanie beanie, I dare say.
I'd inquire for later purposes, how would I eventually go about being un-jobban'd, or is this auto-temporary?
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Post by Name Changing Autist on Mar 4, 2014 1:15:36 GMT -5
'Aight, my thanks to Holt for a fair-handed approach, and my thanks to Necro for what, to my naturally biased persons, seems like a fairer expand on that approach, and for justifying Holt's decision in more depth. Nibbles however is bein' a lil' meanie beanie, I dare say. I'd inquire for later purposes, how would I eventually go about being un-jobban'd, or is this auto-temporary? Could probably just wait a week or two then make a ban appeal. |
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. sorry for the bad news, but i will always remember our time raping some whores and animals in ss13. nig