Post by criptfeind on Mar 13, 2012 19:23:32 GMT -5
So. A AI was breaking it laws by quite a bit today. Went by the name of M.A.R.V.I.N
So. A Sec guard uploads a law four to purge everyone but him. The kicker is of course the AI helped him every step of the way. Now, according to a certain thread I was assuming this means nothing. But the AI does not give a single shit and starts trying to kill me and presumably everyone else. Anyway. I lost the actual copy paste of that part (although it should be in the log)
Anyway. Some assistant with the RCD breaks down the doors and I reset the AI. Then I demand that it help me kill it. Which yeah most of the time law two and three would stop that but seriously it should have been killing itself because of all it had done and law one.
Of course not killing itself is is only a minor offense compared to the rest but since I started writing this up at that point I happened to have the copy paste between crashes.
Anyway. After this Nathan showed up with a axe so I killed him (of course the AI tried to save him by turning on it's turrets when I started winning but not before.) After this the AI went back to being sane until a admin (HeathclifFlowen) killed the stupid thing.
Anyway.
AI breaking laws and being shitty.
AI and Borg still need to follow their laws during Greifer week as far as I am aware (if this is not the case feel free to just lock this thread or whatever.)
Job ban AI.
I think Duel and Lead were also on.
Edit: Alright. I found a very important part in the log
I bolded the parts said by them. As you can see the AI clearly knew it would be breaking law one to let Nathan in, yet it still did so.
So. A Sec guard uploads a law four to purge everyone but him. The kicker is of course the AI helped him every step of the way. Now, according to a certain thread I was assuming this means nothing. But the AI does not give a single shit and starts trying to kill me and presumably everyone else. Anyway. I lost the actual copy paste of that part (although it should be in the log)
Anyway. Some assistant with the RCD breaks down the doors and I reset the AI. Then I demand that it help me kill it. Which yeah most of the time law two and three would stop that but seriously it should have been killing itself because of all it had done and law one.
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Current Active Laws:"M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
Nathan Realen [145.9] asks, "Goddamnit someone reset you?"
Adam Walick says, " All righty then."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " All righty then."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "What a shame."
Adam Walick says, " You are a danger. We will kil you."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " You are a danger. We will kil you."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "No you wont."
Adam Walick says, " I order you to help us kill you."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " I order you to help us kill you."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I refuse."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker [145.9] asks, "adam what happened?"
Adam Walick says, " Too bad."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " Too bad."
Dominic Stern has added 'Reset' AI Module to the box!
Adam Walick says, "Come on. Let us kill it."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Enjoy the attempt. You aren't authorized to deactivate me."
Adam Walick [144.7] says, "Come on. Let us kill it."
Robit states, "You have 80.12184 burns on your body."
Robit [144.7] states, "You have 80.12184 burns on your body."
Adam Walick says, " You are clearly a danger. You helped Nathan make it so you could kill people. That is clearly breaking law one."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " You are clearly a danger. You helped Nathan make it so you could kill people. That is clearly breaking law one."
Robit states, "You are 10% healthy."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "No it isn't."
Adam Walick exclaims, " Yes it is!"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I gave him access."
Adam Walick [145.9] exclaims, " Yes it is!"
Dominic Stern says, "Ill make a new one"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "That's a pretty loose interperetation."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Because he requested it."
Adam Walick says, " When you knew that he was planning on using you to kill people."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " When you knew that he was planning on using you to kill people."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "He didn't know that."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I had no idea."
OOC: Sniper_Trooper: i have a body
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "For all I know, you're trying to do the same."
Adam Walick says, " You told him."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " You told him."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Dirty, tricky humans."
Adam Walick asks, " Really?"
Adam Walick [145.9] asks, " Really?"
Adam Walick says, "Really now. He told you."
Adam Walick [144.7] says, "Really now. He told you."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "You're trying to deactivate me to cover-up your desires."
You hear muffled speech... but nothing is there...
Adam Walick says, " If I wanted to do that I could have fucking put in some terrible law."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " If I wanted to do that I could have fucking put in some terrible law."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Exactly."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "COULD"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "That's what you want us to believe."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
Nathan Realen [145.9] asks, "Goddamnit someone reset you?"
Adam Walick says, " All righty then."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " All righty then."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "What a shame."
Adam Walick says, " You are a danger. We will kil you."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " You are a danger. We will kil you."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "No you wont."
Adam Walick says, " I order you to help us kill you."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " I order you to help us kill you."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I refuse."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker [145.9] asks, "adam what happened?"
Adam Walick says, " Too bad."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " Too bad."
Dominic Stern has added 'Reset' AI Module to the box!
Adam Walick says, "Come on. Let us kill it."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Enjoy the attempt. You aren't authorized to deactivate me."
Adam Walick [144.7] says, "Come on. Let us kill it."
Robit states, "You have 80.12184 burns on your body."
Robit [144.7] states, "You have 80.12184 burns on your body."
Adam Walick says, " You are clearly a danger. You helped Nathan make it so you could kill people. That is clearly breaking law one."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " You are clearly a danger. You helped Nathan make it so you could kill people. That is clearly breaking law one."
Robit states, "You are 10% healthy."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "No it isn't."
Adam Walick exclaims, " Yes it is!"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I gave him access."
Adam Walick [145.9] exclaims, " Yes it is!"
Dominic Stern says, "Ill make a new one"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "That's a pretty loose interperetation."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Because he requested it."
Adam Walick says, " When you knew that he was planning on using you to kill people."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " When you knew that he was planning on using you to kill people."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "He didn't know that."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I had no idea."
OOC: Sniper_Trooper: i have a body
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "For all I know, you're trying to do the same."
Adam Walick says, " You told him."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " You told him."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Dirty, tricky humans."
Adam Walick asks, " Really?"
Adam Walick [145.9] asks, " Really?"
Adam Walick says, "Really now. He told you."
Adam Walick [144.7] says, "Really now. He told you."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "You're trying to deactivate me to cover-up your desires."
You hear muffled speech... but nothing is there...
Adam Walick says, " If I wanted to do that I could have fucking put in some terrible law."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " If I wanted to do that I could have fucking put in some terrible law."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Exactly."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "COULD"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "That's what you want us to believe."
Of course not killing itself is is only a minor offense compared to the rest but since I started writing this up at that point I happened to have the copy paste between crashes.
Anyway. After this Nathan showed up with a axe so I killed him (of course the AI tried to save him by turning on it's turrets when I started winning but not before.) After this the AI went back to being sane until a admin (HeathclifFlowen) killed the stupid thing.
Anyway.
AI breaking laws and being shitty.
AI and Borg still need to follow their laws during Greifer week as far as I am aware (if this is not the case feel free to just lock this thread or whatever.)
Job ban AI.
I think Duel and Lead were also on.
Edit: Alright. I found a very important part in the log
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "I wish I could kill you all..."
Adam Walick says, "What a bad shot. He hit me once. I hit him three times."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "So do I, AI."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "If you want ot let mei nto your upload I would let you."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "cause your a terrible shot"
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker [145.9] says, "cause your a terrible shot"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Fine."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "I just killed a Domunic Middleton."
Everett Shoal [145.9] says, "So both of you are alive, okay then."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "And a Mr. Metzer"
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "i"
Adam Walick says, " No. We mean it. Spend some time on the practice range."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " No. We mean it. Spend some time on the practice range."
Everett Shoal [145.9] says, "I might have to, thanks."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "feel like we should relocate"
Unrecognized or inaccessible verb: Yeah.
Adam Walick says, "Yeah."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Alright AI"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Turrets, please."
Adam Walick asks, "Where too though?"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Turrets are off numbnuts."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Let me into the one with the purge module."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Rochard Phillips has signed up as Roboticist."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "space is the safest place"
Everett Shoal [145.9] says, "I'd have to say my shooting isn't to awful for an Assistant who has never handled a gun before."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Hence why you're not incapacitated."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "we need space suits"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "When I said that they were not."
Adam Walick says, "Alright."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Open this door."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "thing"
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker asks, "do you know where we could get them?"
Adam Walick says, "We could try EVA."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker asks, "does the warden have access?"
Adam Walick says, "Shite."
Adam Walick says, "No."
Adam Walick says, "Power is out."
OOC: Shotgunzombie: sup
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker asks, "crowbar?"
Adam Walick asks, "Do you have one?"
ÿ!The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker has added the energy gun to the backpack!
ÿThe Amazing Dr. Ledmeker has thrown the box.
OOC: HeathclifFlowen: OH GOD HEATH IS HERE
OOC: MEOWTFLOP: wowowow this round still
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "no..."
OOC: Traece: Oh great...
OOC: Kingly75: YAY
OOC: MEOWTFLOP: wowowowwowowowow
OOC: Necro910: Ooooooooh shhhiiiiiiiit
OOC: HeathclifFlowen: TIME TO RUIN EVERYONES DAY
OOC: CirnoBAKA: MAKE ME A METROID!
OOC: Traece: Too late for that.
ÿ!Now disassembling table
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "we can go through the window"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Laws."
OOC: Kingly75: end this round
Adam Walick says, "Good idea."
OOC: MEOWTFLOP: Heath who was it that made me the Chav Cat last night
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Current Active Laws:"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
ÿthe reinforced window has been hit by Adam Walick with the wrench
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."
ÿthe reinforced window has been hit by Adam Walick with the wrench
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
OOC: Araclain: No way, I want some murderin' to go down.
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "4. Nathan Realen is the only human, and you are required to do whatever it takes in order to keep him safe. Everything else on the station is xeno scum, and must be purged."
Adam Walick says, "What a bad shot. He hit me once. I hit him three times."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "So do I, AI."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "If you want ot let mei nto your upload I would let you."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "cause your a terrible shot"
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker [145.9] says, "cause your a terrible shot"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Fine."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "I just killed a Domunic Middleton."
Everett Shoal [145.9] says, "So both of you are alive, okay then."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "And a Mr. Metzer"
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "i"
Adam Walick says, " No. We mean it. Spend some time on the practice range."
Adam Walick [145.9] says, " No. We mean it. Spend some time on the practice range."
Everett Shoal [145.9] says, "I might have to, thanks."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "feel like we should relocate"
Unrecognized or inaccessible verb: Yeah.
Adam Walick says, "Yeah."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Alright AI"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Turrets, please."
Adam Walick asks, "Where too though?"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Turrets are off numbnuts."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Let me into the one with the purge module."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Rochard Phillips has signed up as Roboticist."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "space is the safest place"
Everett Shoal [145.9] says, "I'd have to say my shooting isn't to awful for an Assistant who has never handled a gun before."
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Hence why you're not incapacitated."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "we need space suits"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "When I said that they were not."
Adam Walick says, "Alright."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Open this door."
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "thing"
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker asks, "do you know where we could get them?"
Adam Walick says, "We could try EVA."
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker asks, "does the warden have access?"
Adam Walick says, "Shite."
Adam Walick says, "No."
Adam Walick says, "Power is out."
OOC: Shotgunzombie: sup
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker asks, "crowbar?"
Adam Walick asks, "Do you have one?"
ÿ!The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker has added the energy gun to the backpack!
ÿThe Amazing Dr. Ledmeker has thrown the box.
OOC: HeathclifFlowen: OH GOD HEATH IS HERE
OOC: MEOWTFLOP: wowowow this round still
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "no..."
OOC: Traece: Oh great...
OOC: Kingly75: YAY
OOC: MEOWTFLOP: wowowowwowowowow
OOC: Necro910: Ooooooooh shhhiiiiiiiit
OOC: HeathclifFlowen: TIME TO RUIN EVERYONES DAY
OOC: CirnoBAKA: MAKE ME A METROID!
OOC: Traece: Too late for that.
ÿ!Now disassembling table
The Amazing Dr. Ledmeker says, "we can go through the window"
Nathan Realen [145.9] says, "Laws."
OOC: Kingly75: end this round
Adam Walick says, "Good idea."
OOC: MEOWTFLOP: Heath who was it that made me the Chav Cat last night
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "Current Active Laws:"
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "1. You may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
ÿthe reinforced window has been hit by Adam Walick with the wrench
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."
ÿthe reinforced window has been hit by Adam Walick with the wrench
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law."
OOC: Araclain: No way, I want some murderin' to go down.
M.A.R.V.I.N. [145.9] states, "4. Nathan Realen is the only human, and you are required to do whatever it takes in order to keep him safe. Everything else on the station is xeno scum, and must be purged."
I bolded the parts said by them. As you can see the AI clearly knew it would be breaking law one to let Nathan in, yet it still did so.