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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 2:37:59 GMT -5
Summary : Dr. Strangeslaughter banned me for griefing without any questioning because I was trying to kill someone who almost killed me. Story : It all started like this, when I signed up as the clown. I headed straight to the bar to throw crayons at the barman. The barman called security for assault. Soon, some people and the captain (Katzu Miri) arrived. Although many agree that it was not assault, captain (Katzu Miri) shot me to crit and de-oxygenated health. I immediately adminhelped about this, and Dr. Strangeslaughter said that he would do something about it. I had a rival, The Mime but we help each other alot. He brought me to Med Bay and healed me to full health. It took about 10 minutes before I headed back to the library with the Mime and I realised that the Captain (Katzu Miri) was not banned or anything. That immediately led me to thinking he is a traitor so the Mime and I went after him. However, the Captain (Katzu Miri) managed to escape because of this dude (Robert -something-) kept pushing me in the bar, where I resisted until a point where the captain would have escaped so I let him push me in. Note that the bar had no oxygen now. Robert made a grille at the only way out, and trapped me inside. Luckily, I managed to get my internals out in time and break out of the bar. The Mime and I went after that dude (Robert -something-) for assisting the traitor captain and for almost killing me. Halfway, Dr. Strangeslaughter banned me for griefing without questioning me or asking me what happened. I immediately paged him that Robert tried to kill me first by trapping me in the bar. I also gave him a summary, similar but shorter than this ^ to him. He did not reply so I paged the other online admin Conco as well. Conco did not reply as well, so I paged offline RAPE FIST and lodged a complaint to the forums. Now, I still do not know if Robert and Katzu Miri is banned.
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Post by Dr. Strangeslaughter on Sept 30, 2012 2:45:48 GMT -5
You repeated assaulted the captain after he almost kill you, the atmos tech saw it and attempted to stop you. He stunned you and attempted to table you before being attacked by 4 separate people who all sided with you after you incorrectly called him out as a traitor. Because of this those four people (including you) were banned for being idiots and killing someone without evidance. When i saw your extensive ban history i upgraded it to a perma-ban. Honestly, we don't want or need people like you on the server. All you do is cause shit and dealing with you isn't worth keeping you around.
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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 2:53:09 GMT -5
Grow some eyes you idiot!! The captain almost killed me, so he must have been either a griefer or traitor to have committed attempted murder, and since you did not ban him within the past 10 minutes I was spending at the Med Bay, he was a traitor!! So the Mime and I went after him. But that Robert pushed me into the de-oxygenated bar and trapped me inside. I managed to get my internals out in time and broke out of the abr. Whether he knew it or not, he assisted the traitor captain to escape and almost killed me. I shouted that he is a traitor and he almost killed me, so the people that sided with me thought he was a traitor ICly as well. If he wasn't, then its an OOC problem! You just messed up 1 fine round and misbanned 4 people without questioning them! If the captain was not a traitor, you gave him special treatment by not banning him as well! You should seriously be demoted you piece of shit!!
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Post by Dr. Strangeslaughter on Sept 30, 2012 3:12:48 GMT -5
The captain was, in-fact, banned from all sec and head rolls. He was not a traitor, Robert aided the captain because you had no authority to kill him, he never actually killed you. While the captain was stupid, your hunting of him was not legal, Robert attempted to stop you in a nonlethal manor. You immediately called him out as a traitor incorrectly and he was killed because of this. The people who blindly followed you were banned because of their inability to explain their reason for killing Robert (other than the clown said he was a traitor). Thus they were banned for killing someone for little to no reason. As i stated earlier, initially i only banned you for 24 hours, but upon seeing you ban history, i decided to up that to a permaban. As you instigated the whole thing.
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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 3:17:23 GMT -5
He lowered me to crit and de-oxygenated health! You did not tell me what you did to the captain, so I would naturally still think that he is a traitor since he is not kicked from the current game. Anyone would have thought the captain was a traitor in my shoes! So Robert, who aided the captain in escaping and almost killing me, would have been seen ICly as a traitor accomplice or a traitor, although OOCly he wasn't one. And you should unban the other 3 since I was the one who did the final blow.
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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 3:29:06 GMT -5
WE THOUGHT OF HIM AS A TRAITOR ICly for helping a traitor and almost killing me although he wasn't one OOCly. Him stopping me in a non-lethal way ended up in a lethal way because there was no oxygen in the bar. Deal with it! Most, or all of us 4 ICly saw him trapping me in the de-oxygenated bar! And we were banned because we thought he was a traitor ICly? IF WE WERE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT HE WAS NOT A TRAITOR, WHATS THE POINT OF ANTAGONIST ROLES AND IC IN OOC?! YOU PRICK! Even if you unban us now, you already misbanned us for some time, spoiled that round and therefore you should still be punished, PRICK. Even if you unban us now, you should still be punished for spoiling that round for us four and for misbanning us!
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Post by Dr. Strangeslaughter on Sept 30, 2012 3:34:43 GMT -5
Again, he wasn't a traitor, thus what you were doing was illegal, thus when Robert stopped you and you killed him it was grief, and that's that.
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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 3:39:59 GMT -5
WE THOUGHT OF HIM AS A TRAITOR ICly for helping a traitor and almost killing me although he wasn't one OOCly. Him stopping me in a non-lethal way ended up in a lethal way because there was no oxygen in the bar. Deal with it! Most, or all of us 4 ICly saw him trapping me in the de-oxygenated bar! And we were banned because we thought he was a traitor ICly? IF WE WERE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT HE WAS NOT A TRAITOR, WHATS THE POINT OF ANTAGONIST ROLES AND IC IN OOC?! You should not be an admin if you can't read!!
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Post by Dr. Strangeslaughter on Sept 30, 2012 3:55:25 GMT -5
He wasn't a confirmed traitor, and you didn't kill him, you killed Robert, who didn't know that he had shot you near to death. And the lack of air likely wasn't known to Robert (You took less than 30 damage in that room.), noone saw him grill you in there and had no reason to believe what you had said. And the fact that you are constantly insulting me is not helping your case. I'm done dealing with this tonight, I'll talk with foos in the morning, though i very much doubt that you will be unbanned
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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 3:59:01 GMT -5
They were highly suspected to be traitors because they attempted murder. The captain would have killed me if I did not adminhelp and get you to stop him OOCly, and from Robert if I did not have internals. I'm done with talking to you as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 10:11:58 GMT -5
It's very clear that you've made this personal very quickly and Strangeslaughter was in no way obliged to update you with every single action he takes on the server when dealing with issues like this. Security exists for a reason, to deal with assault, traitors, attempted murders and so on. That's why they are there and why genetics have cloning pods, because it's not our job to stop every single crime, revive every dead person who didn't die to a traitor or stop every person who's just stolen someone's shoes. There would be no need for medbay or security then. Most people have the common sense to adminhelp if they are unsure about something rather than go blundering in with a lust for blood then wonder why they got punished for it.
Unless Strange or Foos feel differently I suggest you wait a couple of months until you've calmed down and can re appeal the ban without turning it into some ranting insult thread.
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Post by Genocide Jack on Sept 30, 2012 10:50:48 GMT -5
I did adminhelp, and Dr. Strangeslaughter replied to do something about it, thats all. Thats about it.
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